planting bigtooth maple tree

Tennis, my old house in midlothian had big Shantung maples, probably close to 30 ft tall by now. That is actually a problem in Central Texas as when you start to dig a hole you hit a large rock about every shovel full of dirt. Plant it right into native soil. Thick layers of soil or mulch will kill the tree or cause it to decline. Bigtooth Maple Acer grandidentatum Leaf Type: Deciduous Comments: Hill Country native.Good for moist, well-drained limestone soils; handles shady sites. I dont remember, either one will do fine) and apply on the compost before mulching. it seemed to work better in caliche soil than shovel. I used the Claw Garden tool for it. This tree gets sun from sun-up to right around 5pm all year long. I advise having a hardwood refinisher take a look at your floor to determine the possibilities. Unfortunately, I didn't ask for any planting advise. For 30 gallon trees use 2 cups. I have the trees planted in the corners of my back yard about 7 feet from the privacy fence and in the middle of the yard I have a Lacey Oak tree which is about 12 feet tall. So far my BTM has grown almost 19 inches. Don't dig deeper than the roots go at planting time. I already had all these stuff in the garage so it's not like I went out of the trouble to get them just for the trees. If getting the fertilizer from us is not practical, select a slow release fertilizer with a 3-1-2 formulation (that is, a 15-5-10 rather than a balanced one like 15-15-15). Mothing should touch the trunk. I have almost 100 seedlings of big tooth maple ��� Too harsh because it gets very hot compared to the ones in the ground. The idea behind fish fertilizer is to improve soil biology activity unlike osmocote. I ended up talking to the owner (super nice guy) and told him my story. Spread a 2 in (5.1 cm) layer of mulch over the soil around the tree. They recommend fertilizing with Osmocote and basically digging a shallow whole and back filling with "field dirt" if there is not enough soil to backfill the hole that has been dug. All rights reserved. Best of luck with your project. I am looking for some planting advice as the folks at the nursery basically said dig hole and plant it. I do like the Koi idea, though. It has 2½-inch deep green 3- or 5-lobed leaves typical of maples that turn a bright red or orange before dropping in the fall. nice purchase. I am new to the forum and new to Maple trees. You can do the same thing if you want to. Your "arborist" is half wrong. I've had a bit of an odd experience with the big tooth maple I bought from Love Creek Nursery (I wanted a Texas native shade tree that was different). Both trees I planted are doing awesome ! I wonder if I will get red fall color as I asked the owner to keep an eye for before shipping one to me. This can make Bigtooth Maple a good candidate for planting along streets in an area with plenty of soil space for root expansion. Seeking advice on fireplace and mantle styling. Performance wise, I give shantung maple a huge advantage over big tooth maple so far. I've uploaded a picture but they show it only in red. It also hasn't grown as much as the other two trees. Our favorite fertilizer is Osmocote and we always have it on hand in 3 lb. I fear we may have lost the tree at this point, as it is covering 80% of the leaves. I am soon to get a 30 G BTM planted in Plano ,TX. Purely genetics... so it's probably wise not to expect both trees to look exactly the same and exactly have same growth rate too. Make sure the root flares are slightly exposed. I agree that it may be from the really wet weather we had to start the year though some of that will depend on your soil and more importantly drainage (is it in an area where water pools and doesn't drain?). Wishing you harmony and happiness in your future home. 1.) The new leaves are tinted red. Our email is maplesandapples@lovecreeknursery.com and the phone number is (830) 589-2588. Bigtooth maple seedlings. Organic fertilizer won't work too well for above ground containers as I am growing probably 100 seedlings of different trees in the containers. It is very important not to dig a deep hole, fill it with loose soil, and plant on top of the loose soil! But I did not do that this year. We can grow Japanese maples with enough shade and water, but they tend to be small and uncommon except in well-tended gardens. If you want a tile look, the LVT or luxury vinyl tiles are a gorgeous option for the kitchen floor. Best advice w/respect to fertilizer is get a soil test before you do anything. I mixed a bag of compost with the soil in a 1 to 3 ratio, backfilled and watered. Fertilization. Shuold I post pone planting until the pre-emergent wears off ?4.) Just looking for help so I don't kill these beautiful little trees. Such collecting obviously has a much larger impact on the existing environment than does collecting seed, cuttings, or budwood. Starting plants in autumn has advantages for both garden and gardener, Bar and Counter Stools With Free Shipping, Great Design Plant: Coral Bark Japanese Maple, a Winter Standout, 10 Design Tips Learned From the Worst Advice Ever, How to Childproof Your Home: Expert Advice, 11 Japanese Maples for Breathtaking Color and Form, Great Design Plant: 'Little Henry' Sweetspire, 8 Little Remodeling Touches That Make a Big Difference, Fall Planning for a Successful Big Spring Party, 3 Ways Native Plants Make Gardening So Much Better, AP - Relocating Mature Shindeshojo & Bloodgood, Sun scald and early leaf loss on Autumn Blaze maple tree, Looking for comments about Acer palmatum 'Twombly's Red Sentinel'. Read Online Maple Tree Planting Guide soil. The folks at Love Creek Nursery are really nice people. Hello all!I was wondering how everyone's maples are doing. Overall your house is well proportioned including the width of the walkway and the size and shape of the bed in front of the big window. This tree gets sun from sun up to sun down but the caliper did not increase in diameter much if at all. Thanks!Ash. It is drought tolerant and does not need heavy fertilization. Whatever Love Creek Nursery told you, it sure isn't about improving soil at all. I think I'm still going to move the roses that are next to the tree. Water will accumulate in the low area and the tree will drown. An in-and-out pattern of holes may help you locate the feeder roots. Great trees. The rugs are enough. For trees in plastic containers, pull the container up to the hole, lift the container up and hit the top edges of the bucket hard with the heel of your hand until the container separates from the rootball. A few months later I was at a local, privately owned nursery and noticed they had some big tooth maples. Your shutters don't add to the look, but if you like them keep them on the small windows only. After that, they pretty much get whatever they can get from dry organic fertilizer when I spread them all over the yard mainly because the root system have spread out. Two questions:1) Is our tree a goner? In the Bandera County area of Texas, 2009 was the largest seeding year in the past 28 years, and 2010 was an even more prolific seeding year when nearly every tree had great quantities of seed. For trees in fiber bags, pull the tree up beside the hole, lean it over and cut a large ���X��� all the way across the bottom of the bag. I had asked them to keep an eye for red fall color and they were happy to do that for me. Some brands can be grouted, making them look like a ceramic tile but much easier on the legs and also very durable. Refill the sides of the hole with dirt. The arborist at Love Creek Nursery has been growing these trees for 30 years and has 5,000 growing right now I think I will follow his advice. More About this Tree The growth is accumulated year after year. I personally think synthetic fertilizer is not a good idea for trees or for anything anyway. (Let grass grow tall, apply pellets, water them in, mow the next day). if you replace rocks with topsoil use something close in texture to your native soil if possible (not a peat based potting soil) cheap topsoil is fine. As far as I am concerned these trees are living a country club life style as they have a sprinkler system which they don't have in nature. Hi if you are entering the contest there are 6 steps. Weather condtions in the Hill Country northwest of San Antonio are more favorable for fall display, but this Your tree probably lost a lot of root feeders so your tree might not look best till next year. The owner instructed me to dig a small hole but what you say about loosenin the dirt surounding the hole makes sense. I have read through all of the question and answers about the big tooth maple . I noticed some said they had some seeds of the big tooth maple, would you like to trade or sale some? Canyon Maple, aka Bigtooth Maple, Acer grandidentatum. It's in proportion to your house and is the right style for a ranch like yours. In the past month since following the advice of the owner of Love Creek Nursery, my tree has grown a foot. I did use Osmocote last year per instruction from Love Creek Nursery. Figure 3. This fall one tree had salmon colored leaves and the other tree had deep orange leaves with yellow specks. I don't know what plant are good in your area. The range of colors in Bigtooth maple trees is astonishingly large. If you have gas forced air and there are vents you can pull from the floor you'll be able to determine if it's solid or engineered. Trees with excellent drainage, such as on the sides of hills, or on the face of bluffs will color earlier and more strongly than those in flat bottomland locations in the deeper soils. I seriously doubt that if I don't apply mulch the trees are not going to grow well they are doing great right now. I think it goes a long way to helping improve the soil biologically. Bigtooth Maple (Acer grandidentatum).....9 Paperbark Maple (Acer griseum).....9 Trident Maple (Acer buergeranum).....10 Red Buckeye ... considered when selecting a tree. Now slide it into the hole and check to be sure the depth is right. Choose a location with full sun or partial shade and well-drained soil. It tolerates limestone soils well. Are the trees too small to plant right now ?2.) A dark tone will show the dust and lint and you'll feel like you are constantly sweeping and cleaning. I ended up using Lady Bug Brand Sylvan tree formula for my mulch and I fertilize the trees with Texas Tee Lawn Fertilizer and Lady Bug Brand 8-2-4 fertilizer along with Medina Soil Activator. They leafed out about 1-month ago (I live in Round Rock, TX). it hasnt established very quickly. The problem with compost is that they do not last very long. I gave it a soil drench of fish hydrolysate and seaweed liquid to provide immediate food for microbes in the soil. For fertilizing newly planted trees, the Osmocote fertilizer described above can be mixed with the soil used to fill the 6” space around the rootball. Must be the location, I guess after all, they have been growing in central Texas for a long time. No real special treatment, some standard fertilizer-infused soil mixed in with the regular soil, about a 3-foot diameter hole, mulch on top. Custom WordPress Theme by Yale Street Creative. 1-tree grew from 3 feet tall to right a 6 foot tall last year during the growing season and the caliper increased in diameter by close to 1/2 inch. It's like eating synthetic food vs real food loaded with nutrients that are missing in synthetic food and people tend to be more healthy and robust when eating real food.... Know what I mean??? Strength: Attractive Form and Leaves The Bigtooth Maple is just a pretty tree to look at and not commonly seen in urban plantings. If I had, I'm thinking my tree would be much larger than it is now. Maybe it may change later on but BTM has a lot to catch up. They will generally transplant better as smaller plants. I planted BTM only because I was told that they would do better than Shantung maple in rocky limestone soil... Do you have any updated info on your trees? If your tree doesn't make it and you want to try another maple, I have a ton of shantung maple seedlings and could give you one (or more) for free. Roots spread out fast when the soil is loosened up. There are a lot of things that it can do for the soil while synthetic fertilizer can't. Your brick looks good too. If your lawn fertilizer is the typical amonium sulfate high nitrogen fert keep it away from the trees. The arborist from Love Creek Nursery might be right when he says these trees will grow 3-4 feet a year with proper fertilization. Please don't paint it white - you don't have a Cotswold cottage. I will also apply compost but might wait a bit before applying mulch. Test planting site by pouring water into planting hole and watch to see if water ��� A plant hardiness zone is a way to describe a geological area where the average low temperature in winter will fall within a certain range. That's vastly different than your "artificial" environment. They are very safe to use but are slow to act. Please do more research on it. I've also sprinkled some greensand on the compost for extra iron and others to help deal with alkalinity just in case. Mexican sugar maple which is bigger than BTM grows faster for sure. In terms of low ��� They like a little bit of shade. If it does happen to be laminate---you cannot refinish it as others have already commented. Not only that, it will get very hot in the summer and could get a bit dry so mulch will help A LOT. Mulch right after planting. I put the trees in the ground last weekend and mixed in some Osmocote per instructions from Love Creek Nursery. For trees in fiber bags, pull the tree up beside the hole, lean it over and cut a large “X” all the way across the bottom of the bag. Bigtooth Maple will grow to be about 45 feet tall at maturity, with a spread of 30 feet. I emailed Metro Maples in Ft Worth since they grow all kinds of maples in the ground and apparently they do not really put out great fall colors. Thanks again for the advice I did appreciate it. I probably did it around 8-12 inches depth. Maple Tree Planting Pros (Teo���s viewpoint) If you want a fast-growing tree that offers a brilliant fall display, you might want to think about maples. Can I fertilize my lawn in April/May if I plant the trees now or will that harm them ?5.) I fertilized it in the fall and the spring with Treetone (Espoma product) and once again got 6 inches of growth this spring. Posted by SongofJoy (Clarksville, TN - Zone 6b) on Aug 31, 2014 6:45 AM. are deciduous trees. The 2nd tree I planted grew from 3 feet tall to about 5 feet tall. Any thoughts are welcome. I would be surprised if yours grew 3-4 feet this year esp when you just planted it. wide. It should be enough to feed microbes in the soil. Most of my shantung maple seedlings are ones I started in trays/pots. That is for in ground only. We also went from cloudy and somewhat cool temps (for Houston at least) to a lot of sun and heat the past few weeks which may be a factor. I was one of the first ones to get Fire Dragon in 2006 From Metro Maples. Strong wood makes them an excellent street tree. I got about six inches of growth the first year; it was 3 feet at planting. Two of the trees are full of big, green leaves and very lush looking while the third has slightly droopy leaves and darker red branches like newguy123 had mentioned. Planting the wrong tree near any of these structures could cause problems with the structure itself and with the health of the tree. For 5 gallon trees use ¼ cup. IF you decide to use a ceramic subway tile stay away from the 3x6 which has been way overdone. you can see as much as 10-20 ft growth difference after 10 years between mulched and non mulched. It releases the nutrients to the tree slowly, will not burn, and may be applied just once for the entire year. Anyways, thanks to everyone who gave me advice I did everything you said with the exception of adding mulch as the arborist said compost is much better then mulch at this point considering the age of the trees. Bigtooth Maple will grow in full sun or partial shade and is found most often in its natural habitat in moist, well-drained soils. Water thoroughly to remove any trapped air in the soil around the rootball. Fast growers and the fall color is always amazing. I planted one that I ordered from Love Creek, only 3 feet... and it leafed out in late march, I think. Distribute the fertilizer equally between the holes and then close the holes. Planting the tree. The timing, frequency and volume of water that is needed is dependent on the species and size of tree, the soil type (sand, loam, clay, silt), how well it drains, how long the tree has been planted and if the tree ��� Big, colorful maples are rare in central Texas, disliking our dry alkaline soil. It is better not to use amendments to the soil at this stage—just fill the hole with dirt. Usually only one or two things need to be beefed up, if that many; most commonly used fertilizer products have too many kinds of nutrients, often with some of them in too high amounts - especially if designed for use with heavily leached soil-less potting medium. Step 2: share my channel with 10 people. I'm pleased with the progress; I just wish I would have done it earlier. But native plants' other benefits go far beyond a little less watering and weeding, Spring is overrated for planting. Warm humid weather or unseasonable hot weather are adverse to good color and usually prevent colors from developing. I planted slightly above ground level. The condensed version of the rest of the planting techniques I recommend is: Dig a wide, rough-sided hole and set the tree high with flares ��� I went home; killed the grass around the tree; and put the down osmocote, a bag of compost, and 2 inches of aged mulch (NOT TOUCHING THE TREE TRUNK). Native from southern Idaho south to Mexico and east to Texas, including much of Utah in mountainous locations. You have to understand that the Lost Maple Forest has been there for a long time and the mulch they get is from leaves and dead trees that fall down enriching the soil over many years. No harm in that. Planting deep is about the worst thing you can do to the trees. All of the seeds that fall do not germinate in the first year, but continue to germinate for a number of years thereafter in decreasing numbers. I will have a few that pop up on their own but not too many. Mine didn't show much of fall color. It's native growth rate is fairly slow, though I have seen a tree in a yard in Logan, Utah that was about 30 feet tall and 20 years old or less. Bigtooth maple shines as a specimen shade tree where soils are deep and it receives supplemental water, or in a cluster of smaller multitrunked trees for maximum punch for the fall color and the spring flowers and seeds. The wider the mulch over long period of time the better... Grasses give off chemicals that stunt trees. This includes thin, alkaline rocky soils as long as there is good drainage. Look carefully at the label. How about any pics? I am very impressed with these trees as last summer we were under draught conditions in Central Texas and these trees got beat down with sun all day long and they looked healthy and perky all summer long. Bigtooth maples do not seed every year. Two don't seem to do well here (no vigor and diseased), and the other is very vigorous and healthy but is too tall (hybrid tea) and looks odd in the middle of the front yard. However, if the big tooth maple doesn't grow more than a foot I'm going to have to relocate a couple of roses. I purchased 2-Big Tooth Maple trees today from Love Creek Nursery in Medina, TX. The weather conditions as fall approaches are a principal factor in the coloration of the trees. I think liquid fish fertilizer works better during first year because it takes a while for dry organic fertilizer to improve the soil enough to make a difference, probably 2 years at least. Thanks for the reply. In short, great "bones". Id guess it took 4 years to get that size. To answer your questions yes you can plant now, only thing Im not sure about is the preemergent herbicide. Small tree or large shrub, with five-lobed dark green leaves turning shades of yellow, orange or red in the fall. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Two weeks after the rains had stopped, the severe Houston heat kicked in and we started to get some significant leaf scorch going. Canyon maple is a small- to medium-sized tree, reaching 30 to 40 feet in height and 10 inches in trunk diameter (I think it could get larger in cultivation). Some might say they are a bit expensive for the size of the trees, but then again considerin how hard these trees are to find I think it was a bargain. And even though I was an arborist for 25 years in Boulder, I can only remember seeing one big specimen. Maple trees (Acer spp.) I kicked myself when I realized I should have called them earlier. PROBLEMS : Does not have many pests. The 2nd trees leaves looked more droopy for a couple of weeks but are now a deep green with dark red branches. Also bigtooth maple will look slightly different from seedling to seedling. Can I ask what you paid for them? It prefers full ��� My advice on picking a stain color is not to go too dark. I will add mulch down the line when the trees get a bit older. The crown of both trees are much fuller this year already. I dug a hole as deep as the root ball and twice and wide. I planted a bigtooth maple here in the Houston area 2 1/2 years ago, purchased from Love Creek Orchard after visiting (3rd pilgrimage) to Lost Maples. It is closely related to the Eastern sugar maple, and the sap from this tree can also be used to make maple syrup. If you are in doubt about the amount of fertilizer to use, call or email Baxter Adams and he can assist you with the amount. Shantung maple's fall color was much better for me. It can even be used as a hedge ��� space small trees about 8 feet apart and expect to trim them regularly to maintain height. He said that landscaper didn't know what he was talking about and that I needed to do a few things to really make it take off. This is the first time it has ever done that in June (or at all after initial leafout for that matter) so I'm pretty confident the advice has worked! Check with Cooperative Extension about soil test, the more different factors tested for the better. If it's engineered it's unlikely you'll be able to stain it darker. Propagation by Wildings An effective way to obtain bigtooth maple plants is through digging and transplanting small trees that have propagated naturally in the wild (wildings) from seed. For a Bigtooth Maple, big is 25���-30���, occasionally to 40���. So I went to Love Creek Nursery for a bag of their 8-9 month slow-release Osmocote the following Saturday (couldn't find to locally), and noticed that their operation certainly was not in some deep, cool, hill country canyon type micro-climate. Yup. No compacted soil or girdling roots. Needless to say, I went with Love Creek nursery because it had nice form and the owner was very nice person to talk to. Big tooth maples that I’ve seen seemed rather slow grower so perhaps it depends on where they came from. Now cut the sides of the bag all the way to the top from the tips of the “X” on the bottom. Very pretty trees. Maple trees (Acer spp.) I planted two Big Tooths about 7 years ago in Plano. Mulch will eventually turn into compost. I used soybean meal, alfalfa pellet, and corn meal to lightly dust the compost then cover the mulch. The bigtooth maple tree has scarlet and gold leaves that give off a slightly sweet aroma. There may be a little variation of the shade of color from year to year because of weather conditions, but red trees are never orange or gold. The large red maple tree thrives in the wet soil of East Texas and blooms in the winter and spring. They are also fantastic trees. In fact, from our viewpoint, Bigtooth Maple is near the top of the list coming in at #4. Otherwise, the same hardwood throughout all the areas is a great option and gives all areas a contiguous, cohesive feel. Compost and mulch are very important to improving the soil specifically for trees. The downspouts should be painted a dark brown so they don't pop out. Usually, you don't see that kind of growth till 2nd year at the earliest. This got me thinking, so I started researching on the web when I ran into Love Creek Nursery's website again. The trees are small 3ft - 3.5ft tall but they are the only Big Tooth Maples I have been able to find in over 3 months of searching. Bigtooth Maple is a deciduous tree with an upright spreading habit of growth. I put down a pre-emergent weed killer on my lawn about 2-weeks ago will that affect the trees negatively ? I've done the whole osmocote and mulch route with each but I worry about the droopy tree. Welcome Home Designs: thanks for the suggestion. 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